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		<title>By: black sea</title>
		<link>http://mansizedtarget.wordpress.com/2008/03/11/jails-are-a-bargain-2/#comment-5563</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Mar 2008 15:36:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The only thing that surprises me about the Chapel Hill murder is that the Duke Lacrosse team hasn&#039;t been implicated . . . .so far.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The only thing that surprises me about the Chapel Hill murder is that the Duke Lacrosse team hasn&#8217;t been implicated . . . .so far.</p>
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		<title>By: Mr. Roach</title>
		<link>http://mansizedtarget.wordpress.com/2008/03/11/jails-are-a-bargain-2/#comment-5556</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mr. Roach]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Mar 2008 23:06:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You raise a good point.  I understand certain kidnappers facing life under the Lindbergh law have made this calculation actually.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You raise a good point.  I understand certain kidnappers facing life under the Lindbergh law have made this calculation actually.</p>
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		<title>By: Leif</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Mar 2008 22:54:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;The death penalty should be expanded to a much higher percentage of homicides and rapes, maybe 75%, with mercy being allowed in more unusual cases where youth and other factors call for mitigation.&quot;

I share your gut-level instinct that those who would impose such a vicious violation as rape on another generally deserve the ultimate penalty, but we should worry that expanding the number of death-penalty offenses will lead to more rapists simply killing their victims. I don&#039;t know what the deterrent effect of the harsher penalty would be compared to that penalty&#039;s aggravating effect -- eliminating the witness to your death-penalty crime -- but it&#039;s something we need to know more about before we endorse these sorts of things.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The death penalty should be expanded to a much higher percentage of homicides and rapes, maybe 75%, with mercy being allowed in more unusual cases where youth and other factors call for mitigation.&#8221;</p>
<p>I share your gut-level instinct that those who would impose such a vicious violation as rape on another generally deserve the ultimate penalty, but we should worry that expanding the number of death-penalty offenses will lead to more rapists simply killing their victims. I don&#8217;t know what the deterrent effect of the harsher penalty would be compared to that penalty&#8217;s aggravating effect &#8212; eliminating the witness to your death-penalty crime &#8212; but it&#8217;s something we need to know more about before we endorse these sorts of things.</p>
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		<title>By: Mr. Roach</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Mar 2008 20:55:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Not only should they be executed, they should be executed swiftly within a year of their offense.  It&#039;s crazy how long these cases drag on; distant historical events are being avenged when people are executed, often 15-20 years after they stole life from the innocent.

The death penalty should be expanded to a much higher percentage of homicides and rapes, maybe 75%, with mercy being allowed in more unusual cases where youth and other factors call for mitigation.  

Incapacitation of the dangerous should be the number one priority of our system, then justice, then rehabilitation, and if we need to put twice as many people in prison to incapacitate the dangerous, so be it.  I believe there is a spillover effect from harsh drug laws that target gun-toting dealers and crack possession that is reducing violence and explains the recent drop in violent crime.  

The mandatory minimums are catching the scum bags in a comparatively large net.  Sure some harmless mules are caught up, but no one makes anyone break the law. It&#039;s more an issue of inefficiency that injustice.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not only should they be executed, they should be executed swiftly within a year of their offense.  It&#8217;s crazy how long these cases drag on; distant historical events are being avenged when people are executed, often 15-20 years after they stole life from the innocent.</p>
<p>The death penalty should be expanded to a much higher percentage of homicides and rapes, maybe 75%, with mercy being allowed in more unusual cases where youth and other factors call for mitigation.  </p>
<p>Incapacitation of the dangerous should be the number one priority of our system, then justice, then rehabilitation, and if we need to put twice as many people in prison to incapacitate the dangerous, so be it.  I believe there is a spillover effect from harsh drug laws that target gun-toting dealers and crack possession that is reducing violence and explains the recent drop in violent crime.  </p>
<p>The mandatory minimums are catching the scum bags in a comparatively large net.  Sure some harmless mules are caught up, but no one makes anyone break the law. It&#8217;s more an issue of inefficiency that injustice.</p>
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		<title>By: Theodore Van Oosbree</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Theodore Van Oosbree]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Mar 2008 20:16:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The system is irrational. Most criminals can be identified at a young age as dangerous and confined through their youths when their criminal potential is highest. Wasting jail space for the relatively non-dangerous leaves insufficient room for these types. Of course, those who have committed heinous crimes ought to be executed, not jailed (Miss Carson&#039;s murderers being a case in point). They won&#039;t be.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The system is irrational. Most criminals can be identified at a young age as dangerous and confined through their youths when their criminal potential is highest. Wasting jail space for the relatively non-dangerous leaves insufficient room for these types. Of course, those who have committed heinous crimes ought to be executed, not jailed (Miss Carson&#8217;s murderers being a case in point). They won&#8217;t be.</p>
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		<title>By: David Manley</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David Manley]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Mar 2008 14:31:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In the Middle Ages there were very strict dress codes based on profession and hierarchy.  Nowadays we dismiss them as oppressive and laugh at them as nonsensical.  While I am not advocating the reinstitution of society-wide dress codes, I do think we&#039;ve certainly lost a very valuable tool in not being able to openly judge people by the clothes they choose to wear without being accused of prejudice or some such.  

Of course, for people whose lives are on the line, they do exercise prejudice based on clothing.  That&#039;s why cab drivers are so often accused of racism.  The reality is that they are much likelier to pick up a clean cut black guy in a suit than a white guy dressed like a gang-banger.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the Middle Ages there were very strict dress codes based on profession and hierarchy.  Nowadays we dismiss them as oppressive and laugh at them as nonsensical.  While I am not advocating the reinstitution of society-wide dress codes, I do think we&#8217;ve certainly lost a very valuable tool in not being able to openly judge people by the clothes they choose to wear without being accused of prejudice or some such.  </p>
<p>Of course, for people whose lives are on the line, they do exercise prejudice based on clothing.  That&#8217;s why cab drivers are so often accused of racism.  The reality is that they are much likelier to pick up a clean cut black guy in a suit than a white guy dressed like a gang-banger.</p>
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		<title>By: Mr. Roach</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Mar 2008 13:58:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s sickening.  Something like 90% of killers have a prior record.  This is why I laugh when I hear people talk about the shame of &quot;warehousing&quot; prisoners.  Obviously, it would be nice if we could easily figure out who was dangerous and who was not, but since they broke the law, I&#039;d just as soon lock them up until they&#039;re old and more harmless rather than take chances when they&#039;re at the high water mark of killing, the age 18-30.  Also, look at these guys, their parole should be revoked simply for their stupid, thuggish, anti-social appearance and demeanor.  Is there any doubt these two would re-offend?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s sickening.  Something like 90% of killers have a prior record.  This is why I laugh when I hear people talk about the shame of &#8220;warehousing&#8221; prisoners.  Obviously, it would be nice if we could easily figure out who was dangerous and who was not, but since they broke the law, I&#8217;d just as soon lock them up until they&#8217;re old and more harmless rather than take chances when they&#8217;re at the high water mark of killing, the age 18-30.  Also, look at these guys, their parole should be revoked simply for their stupid, thuggish, anti-social appearance and demeanor.  Is there any doubt these two would re-offend?</p>
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		<title>By: David Manley</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David Manley]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Mar 2008 13:45:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,337408,00.html

This report about Eve Carson&#039;s killers, who were both on parole, makes me think we need a lot more prisons.]]></description>
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<p>This report about Eve Carson&#8217;s killers, who were both on parole, makes me think we need a lot more prisons.</p>
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		<title>By: David Manley</title>
		<link>http://mansizedtarget.wordpress.com/2008/03/11/jails-are-a-bargain-2/#comment-5542</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David Manley]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Mar 2008 22:51:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m all for the reintroduction of the stocks and dunkings, but I like jails also, especially when they keep criminals separated from me and my family.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m all for the reintroduction of the stocks and dunkings, but I like jails also, especially when they keep criminals separated from me and my family.</p>
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		<title>By: Leif</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Leif]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Mar 2008 20:23:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Monkey, one problem with prisoners is that they are estranged from societal forces that would help them re-integrate into society as productive, as opposed to destructive, members. The farther from family contacts a prisoner is incarcerated, the more isolated from that key social contact he becomes, the more alienated he is likely to be from society upon release. Shipping prisoners to Thailand--or even to Mexico--is likely to exacerbate an already difficult problem.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Monkey, one problem with prisoners is that they are estranged from societal forces that would help them re-integrate into society as productive, as opposed to destructive, members. The farther from family contacts a prisoner is incarcerated, the more isolated from that key social contact he becomes, the more alienated he is likely to be from society upon release. Shipping prisoners to Thailand&#8211;or even to Mexico&#8211;is likely to exacerbate an already difficult problem.</p>
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