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		<title>By: unastronaut.</title>
		<link>http://mansizedtarget.wordpress.com/2008/04/13/the-real-obama/#comment-6016</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 02 May 2008 02:13:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[icr spends time trying to be witty with insults instead of reading the evidence and facing the facts.  Tragic.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>icr spends time trying to be witty with insults instead of reading the evidence and facing the facts.  Tragic.</p>
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		<title>By: Dedalus</title>
		<link>http://mansizedtarget.wordpress.com/2008/04/13/the-real-obama/#comment-5862</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 08:07:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;In today’s PC environment, no one who is hand-picked...&quot;  
 
 In that sentence above I obviously meant &quot;anyone&quot;, but wrote &quot;no one&quot;.  It&#039;s late, what can I say?

Oh, and as far as Obama thinking that Whites should engage in collective guilt, I&#039;ve said it before and will say it again because it&#039;s worth repeating - I have NEVER felt guilty about the suffering of this world; and that includes Blacks, and not just Blacks.  Never.  
When you come, as I did and as millions - MILLIONS - of poor, and working class and middle class, Whites have, from an abusive background that essentially rips your life apart before it starts, and when your primary offenders bury their guilt and memory in abstractions like Liberal politics, ie; Sentimentality; when you come from a place that feels no guilt when they should, and feels guilt when they shouldn&#039;t and then turns to their victims and ask them to join them in this bizarre ritual of abstract, sentimental, unreal guilt SO they can never feel the pain that will come from looking at themselves, ie; so they can NEVER grow, since pain and self-reflection are the essence of any spiritual growth; when you come from that, and then are turned over to angry Blacks who have no empathy for themselves and even less from you, and you are subjected to their cruelty and violence, and then told that no matter how low you are on the totem pole you are still expected to feel for them, and told by people who are beating you - well, then you know what is meant by the phrase &quot;Inverted World&quot;.  Actually &quot;insane&quot; is about the nicest thing I could say about that world.  It took me years to untie the knots in my thinking and feeling, but I did it and will never go back - ever.  As it is, the whole Obama thing is simply bizarre, cowardly and dishonest. Poor them.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;In today’s PC environment, no one who is hand-picked&#8230;&#8221;  </p>
<p> In that sentence above I obviously meant &#8220;anyone&#8221;, but wrote &#8220;no one&#8221;.  It&#8217;s late, what can I say?</p>
<p>Oh, and as far as Obama thinking that Whites should engage in collective guilt, I&#8217;ve said it before and will say it again because it&#8217;s worth repeating &#8211; I have NEVER felt guilty about the suffering of this world; and that includes Blacks, and not just Blacks.  Never.<br />
When you come, as I did and as millions &#8211; MILLIONS &#8211; of poor, and working class and middle class, Whites have, from an abusive background that essentially rips your life apart before it starts, and when your primary offenders bury their guilt and memory in abstractions like Liberal politics, ie; Sentimentality; when you come from a place that feels no guilt when they should, and feels guilt when they shouldn&#8217;t and then turns to their victims and ask them to join them in this bizarre ritual of abstract, sentimental, unreal guilt SO they can never feel the pain that will come from looking at themselves, ie; so they can NEVER grow, since pain and self-reflection are the essence of any spiritual growth; when you come from that, and then are turned over to angry Blacks who have no empathy for themselves and even less from you, and you are subjected to their cruelty and violence, and then told that no matter how low you are on the totem pole you are still expected to feel for them, and told by people who are beating you &#8211; well, then you know what is meant by the phrase &#8220;Inverted World&#8221;.  Actually &#8220;insane&#8221; is about the nicest thing I could say about that world.  It took me years to untie the knots in my thinking and feeling, but I did it and will never go back &#8211; ever.  As it is, the whole Obama thing is simply bizarre, cowardly and dishonest. Poor them.</p>
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		<title>By: Dedalus</title>
		<link>http://mansizedtarget.wordpress.com/2008/04/13/the-real-obama/#comment-5861</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 07:47:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The fact is, Obama DOESN&#039;T know much about Race.  In today&#039;s PC environment, no one who is hand-picked (that&#039;s the right word) to be front and center will only ever utter platitudes and various freeze-dried thought-cliches.  That&#039;s what they are there for.  The brutal facts are that the lower you go on the Cultural ladder the more repetition and resistance to change and the less one can tolerate prolonged periods of intense concentration and the cognitive tension that goes with it. And Race is an issue that requires the sort of careful thinking virtually no one in the States or anywhere anymore, has an interest in.
 That people, especially Whites, trip over themselves at Obama&#039;s verbal facility is more a sign of how low we&#039;ve sunk, and not of any particular intellectual gift of his.
It&#039;s also a showy, people-pleasing, nauseating embarrassment. 
 I wish to be blunt. I do not see how it is possible to do something at all, let alone well, for someone else, when you can not do it for yourself; or worse, when society says you can NOT do it for yourself, you ONLY can do it for someone else.  Whites are expected to FEEL for Blacks in a way they dare not feel for themselves.  If they truly did, and not enough do, then things would literally change over night in America.  
  Today, we live in an Inverted World that is quickly becoming a Twisted World; and in this world even thought and feeling suffer. Thought and Feeling being two words for the same thing -our Humanity.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The fact is, Obama DOESN&#8217;T know much about Race.  In today&#8217;s PC environment, no one who is hand-picked (that&#8217;s the right word) to be front and center will only ever utter platitudes and various freeze-dried thought-cliches.  That&#8217;s what they are there for.  The brutal facts are that the lower you go on the Cultural ladder the more repetition and resistance to change and the less one can tolerate prolonged periods of intense concentration and the cognitive tension that goes with it. And Race is an issue that requires the sort of careful thinking virtually no one in the States or anywhere anymore, has an interest in.<br />
 That people, especially Whites, trip over themselves at Obama&#8217;s verbal facility is more a sign of how low we&#8217;ve sunk, and not of any particular intellectual gift of his.<br />
It&#8217;s also a showy, people-pleasing, nauseating embarrassment.<br />
 I wish to be blunt. I do not see how it is possible to do something at all, let alone well, for someone else, when you can not do it for yourself; or worse, when society says you can NOT do it for yourself, you ONLY can do it for someone else.  Whites are expected to FEEL for Blacks in a way they dare not feel for themselves.  If they truly did, and not enough do, then things would literally change over night in America.<br />
  Today, we live in an Inverted World that is quickly becoming a Twisted World; and in this world even thought and feeling suffer. Thought and Feeling being two words for the same thing -our Humanity.</p>
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		<title>By: Mr. Roach</title>
		<link>http://mansizedtarget.wordpress.com/2008/04/13/the-real-obama/#comment-5857</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Apr 2008 19:21:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ve commented there, but not sure if anyone else may have &quot;stolen my identity.&quot; 

Thanks for visiting.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve commented there, but not sure if anyone else may have &#8220;stolen my identity.&#8221; </p>
<p>Thanks for visiting.</p>
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		<title>By: G.S.</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Apr 2008 18:44:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Good work, Mr. Roach!  I read your recent articles over @ Takimag.  

I especially liked your discussion of the POW-MIA flag; I had never thought about it in that light.

I&#039;m curious, are you the same Mr. Roach who occasionally posts @ Chronicles?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good work, Mr. Roach!  I read your recent articles over @ Takimag.  </p>
<p>I especially liked your discussion of the POW-MIA flag; I had never thought about it in that light.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m curious, are you the same Mr. Roach who occasionally posts @ Chronicles?</p>
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		<title>By: JSilverheels</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Apr 2008 20:23:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[One thing Obama got right: working class white people ARE bitter. They are bitter about being ethnically cleansed from once stable neighborhoods and being made to pay for the sins of the wealthy in the form of affirmative action.

Of course, all income redistribution is income redistribution, but from this stiff&#039;s perspective, Social Security is not the same thing as AFDC. The incentives ARE different, as are the recipients.  

Yeah, there are anomalies and inefficiencies in the former, but the latter is simple theft. Coupled with affirmative action, and crime, it&#039;s a Holocaust against the white working class.

Yeah, we&#039;re bitter.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One thing Obama got right: working class white people ARE bitter. They are bitter about being ethnically cleansed from once stable neighborhoods and being made to pay for the sins of the wealthy in the form of affirmative action.</p>
<p>Of course, all income redistribution is income redistribution, but from this stiff&#8217;s perspective, Social Security is not the same thing as AFDC. The incentives ARE different, as are the recipients.  </p>
<p>Yeah, there are anomalies and inefficiencies in the former, but the latter is simple theft. Coupled with affirmative action, and crime, it&#8217;s a Holocaust against the white working class.</p>
<p>Yeah, we&#8217;re bitter.</p>
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		<title>By: Leif</title>
		<link>http://mansizedtarget.wordpress.com/2008/04/13/the-real-obama/#comment-5847</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Apr 2008 20:18:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Obama’s whining about the mass hysteria of Pennsylvania’s poor whites is obviously selective and results-oriented. Obama is calculating and contradictory in his rhetoric.&quot;

You only think that because you&#039;re clinging to old canards out of desperation and loathing. Let Obama free you. Let Obama elevate you. Turn your sins and griefs over to Obama. Take everything to Obama in care. Let go, and let Obama.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Obama’s whining about the mass hysteria of Pennsylvania’s poor whites is obviously selective and results-oriented. Obama is calculating and contradictory in his rhetoric.&#8221;</p>
<p>You only think that because you&#8217;re clinging to old canards out of desperation and loathing. Let Obama free you. Let Obama elevate you. Turn your sins and griefs over to Obama. Take everything to Obama in care. Let go, and let Obama.</p>
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		<title>By: Mr. Roach</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Apr 2008 15:45:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I realize that&#039;s a little unclear.  I meant that criticisms of ordinary welfare programs are not made against older social security beneficiaries.  They don&#039;t see themselves as welfare cases, and neither do other Americans, not least because the program is universal and most of its recipients are hard-working people.  As government benefit recipients, though, they fight for more than their fair share all the time and vote more Democratic than their attitudes on other issues would suggest.  Clinton wanted to bring middle class and working class whites into the beneficiary fold through nationalized health care.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I realize that&#8217;s a little unclear.  I meant that criticisms of ordinary welfare programs are not made against older social security beneficiaries.  They don&#8217;t see themselves as welfare cases, and neither do other Americans, not least because the program is universal and most of its recipients are hard-working people.  As government benefit recipients, though, they fight for more than their fair share all the time and vote more Democratic than their attitudes on other issues would suggest.  Clinton wanted to bring middle class and working class whites into the beneficiary fold through nationalized health care.</p>
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		<title>By: JSilverheels</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Apr 2008 14:52:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Can you explain this?

&quot;Clinton knew that the old canard of “welfare queens getting rich” carries little weight among recipients of Medicare and Social Security, whose beneficiaries consist mostly of people who have worked hard most of their life. &quot;

Seems to me that it carries a LOT of weight.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can you explain this?</p>
<p>&#8220;Clinton knew that the old canard of “welfare queens getting rich” carries little weight among recipients of Medicare and Social Security, whose beneficiaries consist mostly of people who have worked hard most of their life. &#8221;</p>
<p>Seems to me that it carries a LOT of weight.</p>
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		<title>By: icr</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Apr 2008 14:11:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[People like UA have so much faith in the self-evident truth of their homo economicus-based  worldview that they seem to think that unsupported assertion and ad hom constitute argument.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>People like UA have so much faith in the self-evident truth of their homo economicus-based  worldview that they seem to think that unsupported assertion and ad hom constitute argument.</p>
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